Turking on vacation

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  1. turkronomicon

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    Has anyone turked while on vacation in another country? I am headed to thailand, and wouldn't mind doing some turking, but I was not sure if there was a ip address issue. I don't know much about how all that works. Live in San Diego.
     
  2. bayonjoset

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    I think that is an issue ('may be' a violation of tearms and conditions), I'd say better not to take any risks
     
  3. sajeev raghunathan

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    I too think that u may run into some issues, if you are an US citizen, and try to turk from outside US.
     
  4. turkronomicon

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    damn. No turkation for me!

    See what I did there?

    thanks for the answers.
     
  5. Khalinov

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    Just to make it official: https://www.mturk.com/mturk/help?helpPage=worker#intl_tax_us_citizen_live_abroad

    This is something that needs attention from AMT. More and more Americans are retiring abroad, and I could see some of these people eventually Turking.

    FWIW, Social Security will direct deposit checks to 40+ countries where expats live. And if the SSA can do it, AMT should have no problems with legality.

    ref: http://www.socialsecurity.gov/international/countrylist6.htm

    I am sure AMT has some excuse that they would offer if you pressed them.
     
  6. sajeev raghunathan

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    it clearly written that US citizens outside US will not be allowed to turk.
     
  7. Turkintothetropics

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    While I do not want to contradict what others have said or tell you to violate mturk TOS, I can say that I periodically travel abroad for business. I was abroad a few months ago and did a bit of turking in the evenings (maybe 1 hour per night) . I did not have any problems - maybe I just got lucky. You do run into the problems of not being able to access some U.S. only hits. It is a good idea to check, it never occurred to me that I could be putting my account at risk.
     
  8. hobomatic

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    Where at? I have gone through the conditions of use top to bottom, and I do not see anything about the physical location of where work is to be performed. Residency however is a different matter. If you are simply vacationing, you are still a US resident and citizen in most cases.
     
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  9. Khalinov

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    ref: https://www.mturk.com/mturk/help?helpPage=worker#intl_tax_us_citizen_live_abroad

    You seem to want to split hairs about whether AMT views vacationing abroad any differently from living abroad; I suggest you ask them directly if you have any doubts.

    As for me, I wouldn’t gamble my account on semantics.
     
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  10. hobomatic

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    Residency is a pretty well defined legal concept, and the Conditions of Use is a legal document. It is not defined in the document, so no special definition can be applied.

    If you know where you legally reside this isn't really hair splitting. However, if you have any doubts about where you legally reside, I would definitely suggest contacting a lawyer, not Amazon. If you will be in the foreign country for an extended period of time and require a visa, your legal residence is probably not in the US.

    That reference is to the FAQ, which is a reference to this part of the Conditions of Use:

    3.b.ix "if you are not a resident or citizen of the United States, all Services that you use the Site to perform for a Requester will be performed outside of the United States."

    Which isn't even a prohibition, it just means that it will not be seen as worked performed inside the United States, and they will not use computer hardware in the US to facilitate it. If they cannot physically provide the turk service on non-us servers, then yeah, you can't work as a non-us resident.

    The FAQ reference seems to be talking about your ability to work if you change the information in your account settings, or sign up with information that implies that you do not reside in the US. This shouldn't be an issue if your residence (not your physical location) is inside the US.
     
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