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  1. eagreble

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    I've done 3 rounds of the Giuly hits now (spaced apart watching), he's a little slow to pay (3-5 days) but no problems with rejections. My rule so far is to not start a new batch for him til the old ones are approved...so far so good. They are a quick hit for time filling!
     
  2. stormsyr

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    Yeah, he's good requester, guess I should post a review. I didn't have TO at the time.

    Always get my hits accepted. Done a few hundred for him.


    I just wish he'd do more per HIT. It actually takes more time to load than it does to complete the HIT. If it was more like the test in which you scroll down and hit yes or no there would be VERY good money in these HITs.
     
  3. angelface83

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    I don't know what you mean- You do just click yes or no, on only one thing for the HIT- One question- uber quick- takes a second to complete each HIT.
     
  4. bootybitch

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    Right, but loading the images takes longer than actually working on the HIT. Meaning the images take 4-5 seconds to load and then doing the HIT takes 1 second. Sitting there waiting makes it seem longer. I have super crappy internet and they take forever to load, especially when I get a captcha.
     
  5. stormsyr

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    Your thinking needs to change a little.

    Yes, super quick. But it takes several seconds to load the next HIT. Several may only be 2 or 3, but think about it. 100 x 3 seconds. 3 minutes.

    Not much?

    You can read all the math and get confused, or just take my word that to complete 2k HITs as is it will take 3.3 hours for that $20
    Now, assuming he had 5 images per HIT it would take you 2.1 hours for that $20

    We could of course lessen that time further by more images per HIT, however this increases the chances of getting a HIT rejected, and overall would be detrimental to your hourly wage. Thus finding the balance would be key, but that's another issue entirely.

    Most requesters leave it at 1 per HIT to avoid having to reject 4 good answers for 1 wrong. Though they could just give you a 1-2 image accuracy leniency. Again, another issue.


    My main point in this is: Just because the hit itself is faster than another (i.e. 1 second for 1c vs 10 sec for 5c) doesn't mean it's the fastest.
    you don't have to go through all the math I show, just round it up and think for a second about it. Once you've done it a few times it'll come easy and you'll spot the better HIT without thinking about it at all.


    3(min) X 60 (sec) = 180(sec)

    So, if you do 100 HITs you're losing $1.80 just in submitting, and letting the next HIT load. That's assuming you're on a fast internet connection and it only takes 3 seconds to load.

    You also have to factor in with 1 item per HIT you're going to run into 3 CAPTCHA's in 100 HITs. That's another ~5 seconds per CAPTCHA.


    That's just for 100 HITs.

    Now let's look at the current HIT status.

    3(sec p/hit) + 3(sec p/load) = 6(sec)
    Each HIT: 6 seconds = 600 seconds/60 = 10 minutes for 100 HITs. $1 p/10min = $6 p/hr

    Assuming there were more images per HIT:

    Example: 5 images


    The same 100 images will be done in 20 HITs x 4sec load time(we'll say 4 for the extra images).
    20(hit) x 4(sec) = 80 (sec)

    80 (sec load time) + [15(sec per HIT) x 20(hits)] = 380(sec) / 60 = 6.3 (min p/HIT) 1000 HITs p/hr (roughly) = just under $10 per hour.

    That's just for 100 HITs. He had 2k HITs.

    2k x 6 sec per HIT = 3.3 hours
    400 (hits @ 5 image per HIT) x 19 sec per HIT = 2.1 Hours.


    Not only does this increase our hourly rate, it would save the requester money. Which I always convey to requesters with these .01 HITs, but they never listen, as i'm sure you won't :p
     
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  6. stormsyr

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    Ah booty you beat me to it.

    And yes, especially in your case of slow internet. More images per HIT would DRAMATICALLY improve your rate per hour.
     
  7. angelface83

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    I don't appreciate your post insinuating that I cannot understand math- Maybe your thinking needs to change that you don't know everyone else's mind based on one forum post- I simply did not understand what you were saying- If you were speaking about another HIT or not because of you said about it not being like the test- That threw me off. I am supposed to read your mind? No-

    Get over yourself- Acting like you are smarter and better and can make fun of some one- only makes you look worse ;)

    I didn't need the whole long post about it,LOL- Frankly I understand it takes time to submit and load- But I have superfast internet the pic is already loaded for me- Depends on your internet too- Submitting takes a bit-
    But I did not do many of these- I am not risking my rating on it. Just did between 5 and 10-

    Lik-managed to get 1,000 done very quickly-

    Truly don't appreciate your snarky attitude. I just posted a HIT- If you don't like how little it pays- Don't do it- But it is quick and easy- Take it or leave it- Just a HIT posted- People have a choice to do it or not- and people can figure out the time it takes and how much per hour all on their own- But most are not doing a ton since he only has one TO review.

    I didn't do a bunch, oooo I did 5 :/ Leave me alone K? I am not coming to a forum to debate when I post HITS. You are henceforth on ignore.

    Who would listen to you with that "better than you, you can't understand math or equations attitude?"

    Yeah other people can calculate their earnings per hour quite easily. Some people are just as smart as you storm- Don't bring nasty, attitude crap to a post for a HIT-




     
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  8. stormsyr

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    Not sure what you misread, or I mistyped....

    I wasn't saying you, or anyone else was stupid.

    "change your thinking" "Broaden your perspective" "look at the big picture"

    That is what I mean by you need to change your thinking.


    Just as most people who see mturk think "wtf i'm not doing work for a penny!" <-- change your thinking. You're not getting paid a penny. Add up how many you can do in an hour, and you're making $10 an hour.

    Perhaps YOU already think like this. Not everyone does.

    I learned this sort of thinking when I was playing a video game. Yes, a video game. I was doing tasks to make money. Then I happened upon someone guide, that was just as I posted. A different way of looking at the task.

    I was thinking "Ooh if I do this I make 1m!!!" *4 hours later* "wooot! 1 million gold!!!" I was *not* thinking "ooh, if I do this I make 500 gold a second!!"

    At that time I was like "wtf as if i'd do a job for 500 gold..."

    When 500 gold for a minute task that takes a mere second would give me over 1m an hour. I had to broaden my thinking.


    I apologize for assuming you do not think like this, however you did ask

    "I don't know what you mean- You do just click yes or no, on only one thing for the HIT- One question- uber quick- takes a second to complete each HIT."


    Which leads me to believe that you did NOT take the load time into account. Especially since I said

    "I just wish he'd do more per HIT. It actually takes more time to load than it does to complete the HIT. If it was more like the test in which you scroll down and hit yes or no there would be VERY good money in these HITs."


    I never said I was smart. In fact, it took me 20 minutes to do those calculations WITH A CALCULATOR. When i'm sure anyone else here could do it in less than five.

    I merely see things differently than most people I meet and generally have to explain myself. Which I attempted to do.

    Furthermore, if you had read my posts I said he is a good requester and it's a good HIT. $6 per hour, that's decent money on Mturk for an incredibly easy job that takes no thought.

    Yes, my internet is fast. Most people are not aware of how long a second takes however as thought, distractions and other ambient noises can distract you from that 2 second wait. Even if you have a 1 second wait, more images per HIT is still better money.


    Did I say you can't understand math or equations? No, and in actuality the math I posted a first grader can do. There were no advanced algorithms or equations. I'm 24 and i'm on a 7th grade math level.




    Once again I apologize you feel that way about me trying to help. I will not try to be helpful any longer. I'm an antisocial nincompoop that rambles on and can't form a thought in words. I think in pictures, ideas, emotions, and memories. I have a mental uh "issue" that I can't connect words to my thoughts.
    That, coupled with being antisocial, and unable to interact with people around me(only place I can actually talk to people is online) I tend to come off as arrogant, self absorbed, and all those other things that no one generally likes.

    But whatever. I'm done with these forums and humanity.



    I probably should have been taking my antidepressants this week.. But I don't care honestly. I fucked up my first suicide attempt, I nicked the artery, I won't miss this time.

    Good bye.


     
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  9. chaos

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    Obviously if there were 3 images per hit for 3 cents it would be a higher pay rate, but it's not a big enough difference for me to worry about it. I'm surprised if it truly takes 3 seconds for these to load for you. It takes about 1 second from the time I click submit, to the time the next HIT is loaded.

    So yes, while more would be better, I can't complain. I can do 15 of these in a minute, so that comes out to $9/hr.
     
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    I was so happy to finally find a good batch hit that I went all out on these,

    Before they ran out I submitted around 2800 of these. (Now if they get rejected I will be very upset)

    I was doing them in about 5 seconds, that's including the time it takes to load the next one.

    So I was averaging about $7.2/ hr more or less. Probably a little bit less for the random distraction here and there, but for the most part I had music blasting and just flew through them.
     
  11. Whimsy

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    I don't think I'll be turking much more so I'm going to make this worth it you stuck up pretentious, whiny, little bitch.

    You're a hypocrite and you argue when there's a bandwagon or someone's ACTUALLY trying to help you. YOU are what's wrong with forums. YOU WANT everyone to be nice and agree with each other.

    YOU'RE ALSO that damned broad on the soccer field saying every kid should get a trophy.

    GROW SOME BALLS AND QUIT WHINING. MAKE SHIT BETTER AND QUIT BEING THE PROBLEM.

    I told you before you'd know when I was actually being rude to you. Go cry to Andy.
     
  12. angelface83

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    Glad you guys both liked them, Tamater and Chaos. That's a decent hourly- I can't risk my rating or I would have done a ton too- Mine loaded fast as well- Doesn't get easier and quicker than this for a HIT, IMO. Never seen a hit load faster-
     
  13. angelface83

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    Don't you ever call me names- You are a horrible human being. Useless meat sack- Don't tell me what to do- You don't control me- Quit trying to control everyone- I have ever right to defend myself and I WILL CONTINUE no matter WHAT you say or do- You are crazy as it comes-

    I'm stuck up? Oh I'm nice, helpful, respectful, can agree to disagree and I don't go off trying to tell everyone what to do and how to do it, when to do it, and bully them if they don't :) I can take you Whimsy- I just choose to ignore you because...you're simply not worth it. You are possessed. Get A LIFE- And quit harassing and threatening everyone online- That is pathetic :/

    I have had you on ignore for awhile- Why the hell do you feel the need to follow me around everywhere and put in your two cents? Get a life!!!! Crazy!

    When you don't get your way or someone won't do your bidding- or you just want to comment on EVERY post and add drama and something rude- You call someone names and bully them- People like you are a dime a dozen- I'm so scared- The thing is- Your words mean nothing to me- Because they are not true- They are simply the ravings of a big fat bully who likes drama and who has no life, and nothing better to do than spread misery and hate.

    Bring it on crazy- You are on ignore- Only now and again do I get to see your crazy rants pop up. I feel sorry for your children. I not be proud if I had a mom this immature who picked on people ONLINE of all places and felt the need to be condescending and name call everyone just because. I am sure you are twice my age...and yet look at how you act. Grow up.


     
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  14. Trantice

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    There's so much drama lately. Fun to read but we all should be Turkalurking (TM) right now.
     
  15. bootybitch

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    If you had her on ignore you wouldn't have seen any of her posts. Especially that one. So.. who's crazy?

    Side note: LOLOLOLOLOL Whimsy I <3 you and I wish you nothing but the success you deserve when you -officially- depart the mTurk ship. *salutes*
     
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    That's nothing to be proud of- Tell that to storm and Whimsy :) Some people never grow up. And bullying won't make me kiss up to either of you- People like you two should be banned from speaking- Let alone typing. Grow up and leave people alone-

    I can respond all I want- Except I won't resort to making fun of anyone, nor calling them stupid b*tches. Really? If I want to defend myself WHIMSY I sure as hell will- And why don't you stop following me around and hanging on my every post like a stalker :/

    You need to get some counseling. Coming on a post about a HIT and resorting to tell me I am not allowed to tell someone to leave me alone and I don't appreciate them being nasty to me...by calling me disgusting names...Hmmm...Yeah that's logical, wise, decent, respectful...totally normal!! Misery loves company- You should change your forum name to it- Remember everything you just said to me- Turn around and point that finger back at yourself- Because it's everything you are- Get a life. I have never liked you and I don't think you are great- Get over it. I don't care if you don't like me.
    If you dislike me so much quit following me around and harassing me, crazy. Learn some self control. What you sow you reap-
     
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    Booty- on my ignore list too- ;) Won't ever open your posts- No one cares what rude crappy things you have to say either- You and Whimsy are two birds of a feather- Crazy bully's :)

    You both need to get a life and have your keyboards and speech taken away until your grow up. You would be saving the world a lot of misery and hate. That's mostly what you spread! Negativity and hate! You are a dime a dozen in this world. And you don't make the world a better place for anyone. Nor yourselves- No one can have peace and happiness with that big pile of rotting crap inside- It will eat you from the inside out- You are the evil that exists in the world and all you suffice is to spread misery. Remember what you accomplished in this world- misery- when you are on your deathbed ;)

    You are nothing special. People like you are a dime a dozen. And you should be ashamed the way you act when you have children and are an adult- Great legacy to pass on- This is what you teach kids not to do- Great book that should be based on people like you guys-
     
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  18. bredeanf

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    You've gotta calm down. All that person did was explain in detail about hours and wages, not necessarily directed at you, just a general post explaining what they meant and you had a page rant about them thinking they're better than you.
    And did nobody notice their reply? I hope they're okay.
     
  19. bootybitch

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    TL;DR hope you feel better though :)

    PS - I also hope you don't do writing HITs. Learn what a fucking period is. Because of you a kid wants to commit suicide. Hope you're happy!
     
  20. bootybitch

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    She just got all butthurt because someone said the HIT she posted wasn't worth the time for them. And in order to not seem like she thinks she's better than everyone else, she turned the blame on him. Poster child for projecting your feelings outward. Who needs counseling?

    I hope stormy (I think that's who it was) is ok, but if Turking/chatting is that much stress on him maybe it's time for a break. mTurk burns us all out once in awhile.
     
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