make the GREAT HITS section for members only

Discussion in 'General' started by rricplay, Nov 28, 2012.

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Should the "GREAT HITs" section be restricted to members only?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. rricplay

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    I think there is a growing problem with the number of "leechers" that have came to the forum. First of all, there is no doubt that the GREAT HITs section of the forum is the most popular section here. As I look right now, there are currently 64 members and 59 guests viewing the "Can't find Great Hits?" Topic. This is my eyes is a problem. These topics are made for everyone to contribute and to benefit eachother. Once i find a "great hit" i post it on mturkforum. Also, I do the HITs that members post. But the thing that everyone jumps all over are the periodic Two Lakes, MedCrowd, NetMSi, ect. batches that take minimum time and pay well. When these batches are put out, they are usually gone within minutes. One of the main reasons why is that it is posted on this forum when they are put out. So what making the GREAT HITS section a for members only would, #1. Eliminate the leechers that watch these forums without willing to help out the community, #2 make them either leave, or create an account for free and start participating. and finally #3 give the mturkforum more time and HITs when these batches come out.

    That is my $.02. I just think this would solve the problem of leechers and it would create more contributers. What do you guys think?

    Edit: I did not mean to create a war. Let me get this straight. I love mturk forum and it is an awesome web site. I was just throwing a suggestion out there for discussion. In any case, it seems as if this topic has made a few guest join the forums which is my biggest thing. If you haven't signed up yet. Please do you will not regret it.

    EDIT: EDIT: I knew this would never happen. I wasnt expecting it to change. I was just bringing this up to see what you guys thought. thank you for your opinions :)
     
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  2. roon83

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    I completely agree and voted yes.
     
  3. Weezy

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    agreed
    i dont contribute often, but when i do it's a nice contribution
    + i post humorously often

    the contributor to leech ratio is ridiculous

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  4. rricplay

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    lol im probably making kids make an account just so they can vote no on this haha :D
     
  5. roon83

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    Silent voters are fine but I am curious about the one that voted "NO". What's the reason behind it?
     
  6. Khalinov

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    That thread is cliquey enough as it is. We don’t need Turker Nation II.
     
  7. l1n7

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    I voted no :D Someone made a good point yesterday about how some of the members here started out as lurkers. I feel that those batches will go fast whether there are lurkers or not. There are like what? 50 lurkers? There are waaay more people turking than the number of people on these forums that are all over those batches, and there are other forums, so yea.. i don't think they go fast because people post them on the greatest hits thread. Also, just because someone makes an account does not mean they will help out. They'll probably just make an account and keep on lurking. AND... yea that's just my opinion. :D
     
  8. rricplay

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    i have no idea. people are entitled to their own opinion. I just think this would solve a lot of problems.
     
  9. rricplay

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    i thought about that but i think that people who make an account are more likely to participate than those who dont have an account. just my thoughts.
     
  10. mtnsurf

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    I vote yes, with one issue. When logging in your system likes to act like i'm not logged in and makes me do it several times then click on random forums to like jump start it. Im using fire fox..... but YES
     
  11. Hercules

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    Some of the guests are actually members that got auto logged out and don't remember to sign in until they post something, I know it has happened to me.

    Making Great Hits a super secret forum that you need to post a hundred times on the forum before you get the top secret password will only serve to make the site more like that other one.

    Good HITs go fast because they pay well and are well know requesters who have a good reputation, not because someone posts it on here/reddit/any other forum. Forums have no effect on the usual crowd of batches, like NetMSI, Slow Lakes, Med Crowd, Classify This!, CrowdSource, etc.
     
  12. sasquatch

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    just because people sign up doesn't mean they contribute. there's a pretty solid core of people posting links throughout the day and night, and also a pretty solid core of people who are registered but don't contribute hits, add to the conversation, or anything else. i understand that people may not be as used to grabbing hits, posting them in the forum, and getting back to working on them, and some people are new to turking in general, but there are some people in particular who contribute very little and only chime in to remind everyone of how much money they've made that day on hits that they didn't bother to share with anyone else, if they even speak up at all.

    realistically, there's no way to enforce participation without using some kind of arbitrary post count number or rate, and systems like that are very prone to failing the people who are contributing the most - one person who was previously a lurker might maintain access to a thread by making X number of posts per day, but regular contributors who take a day or two off or have something come up otherwise might be punished by that kind of system. the alternative is our own kinds of 'quals' but it would be a pretty subjective assessment which would cause a lot more headaches than not.

    also, this is far from the only place on the internet where these hits are being posted. there are multiple subreddits, at least two or three other well-populated forums, tons of users with turkalert, and plenty of individual users constantly searching on mturk. i don't like the lack of participation and, more importantly, contribution, by lurkers/leechers any more than you do, but i think that it's not as big a problem as you think it is in terms of competition for batches - scammers are much more likely make a 1000+ hit batch disappear in record time than a couple dozen people watching our posts, and i think the available solutions, at least the ones i mentioned, and of course there may be more that i'm not thinking of, are more trouble than they're worth. and again. being a member doesn't mean in any way that someone contributes. it's just an extra few minutes of work that they have to do in order to go right back to what they were doing before. i'm pretty sure i've seen more unregistered lurkers become active participants than i've seen currently silent/non-contributing members start taking part in the thread.

    my .02 cent hit...
     
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  13. l1n7

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    ^^^ i agree with sasquatch.

    Forcing people to join/participate might run them away, or if people have to join and participate, they might just post anything to get by and then there's going to be a spamming problem. i just don't see a real problem with people lurking. I really don't see ANY problems with the forum right now i guess its cuz ive only been here for like a month but idk lately when people complain about something, i really don't get it. I really, really like this forum. It really makes turking a better experience.
     
  14. roon83

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    Strong points @l1n7 and @sasquatch.
     
  15. sasquatch

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    yeah, seriously. if anything makes me want to participate and contribute less, it's not the fact that there are people lurking and leeching hits. it's the people who incessantly complain about anything off-topic in the thread. i mean, really? do you like going to work and just talk and think about nothing but work for 7 or 8 straight hours, or however long you work? not once since i've been here has anything non-hit related taken precedence over turking in the thread. if there's a hit to be posted, it doesn't matter what the conversation is, the hit's going to be posted by someone and we're not going to miss out on it because we, god forbid, were trying to have a bit of fun or interesting banter. people have even started whining at like 2am about off-topic discussion in the thread - are you freaking kidding me? yeah, because we're talking about something else all those billions of new wonderful hits getting posted while the vast majority of requesters are fast asleep will get missed. give me a break. ugh. getting pissed just writing about it.
     
  16. rricplay

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    For one I live on this forum. I love it a lot to. I have just been thinking how much more we could make with mturk if we had all 100 people that view that topic search for great hits instead of a hand full. I'm not meaning to cause a war or anything I'm fine with whatever. Just my opinion.
     
  17. ewd76

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    That's what I was thinking. I voted no.
     
  18. rricplay

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    I completely agree with the part of off topic. So annoying especially memes.
     
  19. sasquatch

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    i'm not sure you got what i was saying. i could care less if people post memes or off-topic stuff. it's the people whining about how much they hate the off-topic stuff that bugs me...
     
  20. ewd76

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    I'm not sure he was using the word meme properly anyway. It doesn't imply off-topic. I think this is the first time I've used the word meme. I can't stand that fool Richard Dawkins(I think this is off topic).
     
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