And this is exactly why I can't wait for Andy to overhaul the greatest HITs threads. One click and you don't have to put up with the "BS posts" as you call it. I've said it before and I'll say it again: this forum isn't just for posting HITs. It's a getaway for workers to enjoy themselves as well, meaning we should be able to post whatever we like (while still following the basic rules, of course).
And since you mentioned posting reps, these are perfect examples for why reps shouldn't be anonymous, and neg reps should be removed. The second one was on one of my more helpful posts. As for the first rep, well I wasn't even online when I got that one.
You are precisely the kind of person that I am referring to You post BS hoping that someone will neg rep you to give you your "needed" attention and then you make another BS post to complain about the rep that you so did not deserve. Its a never ending cycle of BS. I have no problem with off topic posts, the problem I have is with you "woe is me " types. You post never ending BS get neg repped then complain and cant understand why everyone hates you.
I post BS hoping to get neg repped, so I can get more neg rep? Lol, ok buddy. Let's just end this here and wait for Andy to decide what he wants to do.
You probably should learn to read and maybe getting some comprehension lessons would do you good, but I am done. I am not trying to argue with you I just gave my opinion and backed it up with examples, you just happened to be one of them.
I would be absolutely 100% behind this first solution. But don't get rid of neg rep... it has it's place too. Just like people need positive feedback, negative feedback can be just as useful. Removing the anonymity will do a lot to quell the worst cases of abuse.
Taking away anonymity, even for pos rep is then going to turn into "hey, you gave me a happy sticker, let me give you one". Why not just give kudos in a PM? No one sees your rep anyhow but you. Do you need everyone to see your 'sex bands'? That's what it's like. Way back when the thing was for the girl to wear these wrist bands for each guy she slept with, BUT no one knew who it was. Feedback should be done in a PM. Positive feedback as the Thanks button.
Ok... I'm new here and I don't really know what these "reps" are and I can not find any button to push or how to leave them or look at the results. Can someone point me to a thread that explains this.
BTW, the whole Jalisa and Jtrurker exchange is another reason to get rid of the rep. It looks like someone trying very hard to get rep just for "oooh! cutdown!" type comments. Rep is not used for what it should be. Only having pos rep, and having it labeled is going to turn into "Oh, Bobby gave me pos rep, let me return the favor so you can get more green bars". It will still be mis-used. Since no one sees the rep, besides the receiver, affirmations and defamations should be done in PM. Get rid of the popularity contest - which is EXACTLY what some are seeing it as "but oh noes! I'll lose my green bars!" BTW, If you are going to give neg rep, you should also be sure you're not the only person looking at the thread at that moment. Anonymous isn't so anonymous!
Could always make neg rep cost something. when you neg rep 1 point you lose a half point of green. When you have run out of green you have no place neg repping anyone. This would get rid of the random pointless neg repping. might result in green farming between friends though.
When there is a thanks button and the ability to pm I honestly don't see the point of having rep. It serves zero purpose other than being 'entertainment' for some [please don't anyone take that offensively I don't have a problem with anyone finding rep entertaining and probably half the people the forum likes to 'lynch' are people I actually like sooo LOL] and honestly don't we get enough entertainment with all our awesome pics, gifs and chatter in the great HITs thread??
I like the rep system, because it does give somewhat of a visual warning of the people who can probably be ignored. When anyone sees someone with the red bars under their name they can assume that they're probably gonna be a jerk or unhelpful. I think neg rep without anonymity would be pretty pointless, because the people who actually need the negative rep will just turn around and neg rep the other person for no real reason except that they did it first. And positive rep on its own is also pointless, imo, because that seems to be what the thanks are for. You can see on anyone's posts how many thanks they've received, and that's probably a better indicator of the quality of their posts. If anyone has a problem with rep they should be given the option to turn it off for themselves. That solves all of the issues. If they don't want to receive rep then they won't, but there will still be a rating system in place for the majority of users. I can't rep right now, since the post count limit, but when I could I gave out plenty of positive rep, but always anonymously. I don't really know why, but I prefer to not attach my name to it. I'd be much less likely to rep if it wasn't anonymous.
Your solution of turning off rep would counteract the red bar to ignore feature. Some snert will turn his rep off and become Captain Asswipe. I've learned I have to ignore some people who have multiple greens.
If someone's truly being that much of an ass then there's a pretty good chance they'll get banned for trolling. I'm just going off a hunch that most people wouldn't turn off their rep. People just like to thrive on drama. If you give someone the option to turn off their rep they can either do that or they lose their ability to complain about the rep system. Because at that point nobody is forcing them to get negative rep. If they're unhappy with the negative rep they're getting there would be a very simple solution. The people who are most deserving of the negative rep most likely aren't going to care, because that little red bar under the name already isn't stopping them from being even more of a jerk on the forum.
The weirdest thing to me about these rep conversations( I say these because we have discussed rep SEVERAL times) is everyone seems to put the responsibility of the abusive rep on the people receiving it, not giving it. If someone doesn't want to be told they are a "******* *****" or that they are "a disgusting sinner who will rot in hell" or that their kid is "******* ugly" they should turn off their rep? But noone mentions what should be done to the people who are actually abusing the system. I feel like I am in backwards world.
What? That doesn't make sense to you? I am abusing the system so YOU should shut it off to protect yourself. lol
Mods have access to the rep and can see who gives it. Andy has said before to PM him if you get bad rep like that and I'm pretty sure he's banned people who are being abusive. Also, I feel like when Andy limited rep to people over a certain amount of posts that should have helped quite a bit with any particularly nasty rep. If someone is leaving rep it's narrowed down to people who are at least somewhat active. If they're being that ridiculous with rep I doubt they're very shy on the forums with their criticisms as well. And I do think there should be some amount of responsibility on the person receiving the rep. In participating in a site that uses a reputation system like this you're accepting that things like that might be said. That doesn't make it right or okay for the person saying it, but it's as simple as you not reading your rep. If people want the rep stopped then shouldn't it be as simple as not looking at what they've received? People can still leave rep, but you've got no clue what they're saying unless you choose to go to that page. Rep isn't hurting anyone unless you make the choice to check it.
People do this with all types of situations--I've received negative reputation for bringing up some of these events before so bare with me because it can get your morality and politics fired up--for example: In rape a lot of people still believe it is the rapee's fault instead of the raper. When a dog is vicious it is the dogs fault instead of the owner that trained it that way. It is the crazy guy's fault--it is, I'm not disagreeing--for killing people, but the person that sold him the weapons get no blame. [I am not against guns but a stricter personality and mental stability test. I love guns.] And it is not the reppers fault but the person being repped. We, the repped, most take full responsibility even if some jackass decided to randomly spread negative reputation. I include all my comments with my name so I am against the anonymous portion of the reputation system. I'd like to know who to put on my ignored list.